
1. Few days ago my friend brought me one magazine with an article about blogs. OK it’s nothing new but even though I am thinking about it ever since.
2. First it says things we all know (sort of answer “What is blog?”) and little about history of blogs (Justin Hall is blog-pioneer). And there we can see how blogs can be (and often are) fun and educational and great place to spend some free time … etc.
3. BUT (there is always one “but”) while blog is “meeting place”, place to show yourself, show how funny you are, intelligent, creative etc. experts are warning that blog is actually perfect shortcut toward complete isolation, especially for young population.
4. Blogs (and internet forums) are representing simulation of reality. It reflects enormous
level of alienation of people in modern society.
5. Birth of blogs is actually consequence of chronic problem in communication. Since we’re communicating less and less in real life we are creating simulation of real contact. 6. Because blog (internet forums) is precisely that, simulation of communication; it is symptom that we have problem, HUGE problem in communication with our surrounding. Because modern society does not encourage closeness but precisely distance; closeness on the distance or distance in closeness.
7. In this delirium in communication where we are holding our computers and mobile phones as if they are crutch without which we cannot walk, closeness and spontaneity have completely vanished.
8. It seems we forgot direct conversation, in cafes, at home, without shelter in a form of monitor and time pause which allows us to think well what would be our response.
9. I do remember my life in prior-computer-era and to be honest I think about it with nostalgia. I guess this will sound strange to majority but I grow up in highly socialized society. 10. Here your neighbor is your best friend. It is person you are seeing every day. And I mean every day; like Englishman are having tea in 5PM here people are having coffee with their neighbors. 11. My mother is having afternoon coffee with her neighbors everyday (not separately but two, three families are circling with the visits), during the summer they are having coffee in the garden, always there is someone who brings cake and in the evening often we are having dinner with our neighbors. Without any special occasion. That is NORMAL behavior here.
12. For instance I was at my mother’s place last weekend while she’s visiting my grandmother in different part of the country. Of course key of the apartment have her neighbor (another normal thing) who prepared me a dinner so that I don’t be hungry after the trip and naturally tomorrow she invited me on the lunch. During my mother’s trip once other neighbor had (many) guests so they used our apartment for sleeping.
You know these things are very common here and I really, really like that.
13. So if I disappear that means I’m getting my life back! That I’m trying to become once again what people should be – socialized creature!
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Edit to add: I’m not against computers (I have blog as well!) but I do finding myself easily give up from some “nature” activity knowing that I’ll kill boredom with the internet. Indeed balance is crucial but that is the hard part. I’m aware of all benefits of internet communication so this TT is sort of generalization of the problem. That means I don’t think here only about blogs (sure there are numerous types: scientific, for professionals in some field, etc. clearly I don’t think about those here) but about time spent in virtual world in general with special accent on virtual comunication. By the way friend who brought me article thinks I became internet addict, which I don’t think but I do admit I’m less socialized then before.
August 8, 2007 at 11:33 pm
I think it is all about creating a balance between reality, and the cyber world. Good thought provoking list. Happy TT!
August 8, 2007 at 11:50 pm
But, are you not socialising by ‘chatting’ when leaving comments on blogs??
Happy TT, and ours is up as well if you want to stop by and check it out…
August 8, 2007 at 11:50 pm
I can’t agree with you more but creating that balance is often quite hard.
Thanks for comment
August 8, 2007 at 11:54 pm
I haven’t noticed much change in the in person socializing around here. It isn’t all about cell phones and computers and online activities here and I’m just a stone’s throw away from the imfamous “Silicon Valley.” Happy TT.
August 8, 2007 at 11:56 pm
Thought-provoking TT; great job! I’ll add this thought: being a shy person who doesn’t do a lot of in-person socializing, living in the age of the internet actually increases my opportunities for friendship and interaction! So it’s a double-sided coin, I guess.
Happy TT to you!
August 8, 2007 at 11:56 pm
I agree with Sue and burntofferings!
Great list!
August 8, 2007 at 11:58 pm
Thought provoking list…..balance is the key.
I cannot tell you how communicating with others in my field of education and history has helped me branch out with content and different resources I use with my teaching. I’ve even been able to branch out and actually educate non-teachers regarding certain historical events.
August 9, 2007 at 12:28 am
Great job on TT. I too spend too much time in front of this screen. It’s all I can do to keep up with all my buddies and tags and, and, and. Have a great TT.
August 9, 2007 at 12:39 am
I don’t think we are antisocial or confined. I for one plan to go out of my home and speak to real people any week now.
August 9, 2007 at 12:56 am
This is fascinating, Milan. It’s interesting too because I’ve also been thinking along the same lines. I love working on my blog, but I don’t get out as much. Some of that is how life is just now and some is, well, being a blogger. It’s one of the reasons I am looking for an outside job at this time.
Two TTs:
http://www.ravensroads.com
(13 blog-related terms I hardly used before two weeks ago)
http://www.markeroni.com/blog/
(13 snarfs/historic landmarks in New York City.)
August 9, 2007 at 1:00 am
While I couldn’t live without my blog (LOL), I can live without my cell phone. I hate having one.
August 9, 2007 at 1:31 am
Great post. I agree – we need to get OUT more!
Happy TT!
August 9, 2007 at 2:24 am
That is nice of you to share this. I agree with your #3. I have noticed this too. Whenever I’m at my sister’s placer for a gathering, I go to the computer whenever there is a time and blog which already isolates me from the group. I don’t know if I can call it isolation or just mere addiction (lol).
My T13 is up too.
August 9, 2007 at 2:27 am
Oh, Milan, darling, you depress me. If I didn’t have my blog, I wouldn’t have anyone!
August 9, 2007 at 2:51 am
Very interesting list…I had my computer with me all last week while on vacation and I purposely did not blog. It was hard for the first day or two, but I wanted to BE with my family, not just be in the room.
We are not in a very sociable area, and I remember my Mom’s friends just hanging out. A lot of food for thought in your blog tonight.
August 9, 2007 at 3:23 am
I do think that the advent of the computer age has had many negative effects. I know that I don’t spend much time working on my friendships in real life but I have met interesting people all over the globe on the Internet. As a stay-at-home mom in a culture where most people work, it’s quite difficult to have any sort of meaningful interaction with people who live in my neighborhood…because they’re never there.
Good post, Milan! Happy TT!
August 9, 2007 at 3:28 am
I’ve always thought the internet was the great resource for people who are too shy to get out and mix with their neighbors; I met my husband, who is English, at an internet site (sixth anniversary was yesterday) and we would NEVER have met without it.
The reason I love the rise of the blogosphere is the emphasis on reading and writing. It’s made it important to be able to do both…and given an outlet for a lot of frustrated writers who probably would spend all their time scribbling in a journal anyway or feeling vaguely dissatisfied.
I prefer to see it as a NEW way of socializing. E.g., I would never know anything about your fascinating country without blogs, you know?
August 9, 2007 at 4:22 am
I left the blogging world for a while – trying to find the work/life balance. However, I do miss the online communication and the exchange of ideas . . . blogging needs to be part of my world too.
Great idea for a TT. Because I’m easing back into the blogosphere and TTs – I’ve posted photos . . .
Cheers, XINE
August 9, 2007 at 5:11 am
Hello,
I heard this news over the radio. Anything of too much is always bad for anyone. As long as we do it in moderation, it should be good. blogging can be therapeutic as well.
My T13 is posted at http://mga-munimuni.info/2007/08/thursday-13my-favourite-things.html
August 9, 2007 at 5:28 am
Nicely said. I really appreciated your words on this.
Happy TT.
August 9, 2007 at 5:36 am
I think blogs are just a new way to communicate. See http://www.coldfusionbloggers.org — my little subgroup of web developers are using blogs to communicate ideas, problem solutions, and socialize. I think, in some cases, blogs are taking the place of “User Groups”. Remember those? No, you are probably too young!
August 9, 2007 at 7:18 am
I think that as with real life communications, you get out what you put into it. Yes, you can blog and remain isolated in your own little bubble, but you can also take those relationships further and deepend them both on and off the blog. Your choice.
Very thought-provoking list.
August 9, 2007 at 9:43 am
Thank you all for your comments! I guess since I posted this topic here I do agree with conclusions from the article. BUT (always “but”) blogs probably shouldn’t be the main target. For instance my own blog is not type of blogs they are talking about and there are numerous ones who also doesn’t fit in that story.
Therefore this TT is about internet communication vs “real” one.
I had to edit my post because I think some of you have misunderstood me. I know that internet has numerous positive sides; about blogs I explained but sometimes where there is no balance (and often there is no balance) people have problem; and they probably aren’t even aware.
So that is what I was writing about
August 9, 2007 at 10:34 am
I think that blogging can be a great way to socialise, but you need to meet people in RL too, there should be a balance.
Interesting T13
August 9, 2007 at 1:41 pm
“It seems we forgot direct conversation, in cafes, at home, without shelter in a form of monitor and time pause which allows us to think well what would be our response.”
So true! DH usually runs all the errands, but lately I’ve had to. Amazing, the socialization I get!
Happy TT!
August 9, 2007 at 4:16 pm
That is a great TT. Very thought provoking. I think people look at communications different to their comfort level, as wrong. There is something to be said for balance, and there will always be the examples of bad balance. Many blogs are there to recount the lives and socializing that is happening to the author. As a home school parent I have had the question of socialization come up countless times, because the norm is to socialize kids with 30 peers the same age. There are different ways to be social and there will always be the ones that make the ‘other way’ appear bad.
August 9, 2007 at 5:02 pm
It does make you think! But my favorite time is my get togethers with my girlfriends! I would NOT miss it for anything! We make sure to do it often.
August 9, 2007 at 7:56 pm
Great post. It is definitely about the balance but it is hard. I find it so much easier to communicate online than in person or on the phone so I’m on the internet more. Although chatting on forums or in IM or posting comments is sort of socialization and conversation, it’s not really. It’s quite different. Even with IM’s where you are talking to the other person at exactly the same time, it’s still not the same. You can’t see each other’s body movements which is a big part of how humans converse. Thanks for sharing.
My T13 is here: http://callistasramblings.blogspot.com/2007/08/thursday-thirteen-7-stresses.html
August 9, 2007 at 9:37 pm
I enjoyed reading your post. You make some very good points.
I live alone and did for a long time before I got a computer, or the internet. I spend far too much time alone, I know this, but also did before the computer. For me, the computer and these blogs & memes have connected me to other people. Now rather than just watching TV when home alone, I do blogging. Also, I am earning extra money by putting ads on my blog. I guess it’s all about moderation. Some time on the blogs and some time out and about with real humans.
I’m sure computers can be a problem for some people, as can alcohol, drugs, stuff like that. I’m not an addictive type person, so don’t see it as a problem for me.
Thanks for sharing this with us. I’m sure many people can benefit from reading it, and take a look to see how it fits in their lives.
Happy T13.
August 9, 2007 at 10:24 pm
Definitely a thought provoking list and I think Elton John would agree with all these!
August 9, 2007 at 11:25 pm
Wow am I feelin’ guilty about Bloggin’ I have the sudden urge to walk away from the computer…. NAAHHH! lol
Happy TT!
August 9, 2007 at 11:54 pm
Actually, I believe many of the things you mentioned are so true… Sometimes it’s like a simulation world to the real life. But for loners and shy people, talking to people across the world instantly is heaven
Great list!
August 10, 2007 at 2:11 am
Interesting – esp. since I spent the day working on a presentation on using blogs in the classroom.
August 10, 2007 at 3:51 am
Interesting take on the cyberworld. By communicating generally, are we missing one-on-one connection?
August 10, 2007 at 3:48 pm
Milan – You are always thought provoking. Do take a vacation from the computer. It can suck away your life. I take a week every month or so away and reconnect with nature, usually on vacation. Rule in my house is no computer on the weekends.
Although, I do see others points as well. I can’t call the computer evil. I did find my writing partner on the internet and it is a blessing. Also, I talk w/ women I have common interestingin reading, writing and stay-at-home moms. Where I live (population 3 million) there are few with my interests or they keep distant.
Society’s dilemna can’t be blamed on the web. Truth is has been rampant for years. Technology from tv, to computer games to cell phones(worst offender) has made us distant. Technology is a good thing and has closed the gap and lessened ignorance. But it can have it’s downfalls.
Even in college, I attend now for my Masters and rarely do the students get together for a chat over a cup of coffee after class at the cafe (which is a cold modern place) but hop on their cellphones and dash off in their cars.
We communicate but the intamacy is gone. I teach and I see this lack of real communication even in the low level grades. But it has been this way for generations. We have become institutionalized from school to work. The bonds that once joined us are no longer there.
I grew up in a tight family. Caribbeans are notorious for the familia and being laidback. We can spend a day doing nothing but sitting in a backyard or front stoop(Brooklyn style) listening to music, eating, drinking and chatting away. Some view it as ghetto or lazy but it keeps us close. As I am older now and the family has moved on this is less common, replaced by work and the need for cash or to “hang” w/ other friends. Truth is the traditions are dying.
MY dh is from Poland and describes a similiar scene w/ friends and family sitting around eating and drinking and talking on weekends in the home. No more. Times have changed.
We have to question not so much the blogs or internet for making us communicate less but the ideology and traditions that have been replaced.
Good that you see the changes and are taking action. Just remember moderation in all things does make for a balanced life and happiness. In the end, happiness is all that matters.
Go on and be happy.
August 16, 2007 at 3:08 pm
Read the post on Serbian sports, but not being much into sports I stumbled on this well written essay on modern life. Enjoyed the post.
August 16, 2007 at 5:10 pm
Balance is the key! In most of America, people, sadly, don’t really spend much time (if any) with their neighbors. More and more relationships are surface, not real.
Great post!
October 12, 2007 at 10:16 am
I think I do agree with most what was said in the blog.
For instance I am someone who does not have a lot of real life friends due to circumstances.
So the computer is very important for me.
On another note because of the computer last month I discovered a lot of my old punk rock friends whom I had not seen in 25 years were online.
So tomorrow we are going to meet each other in Amsterdam.
It works both ways it seems
December 15, 2007 at 4:17 pm
very interesting, but I don’t agree with you
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